Andaz Tokyo: Choosing Between Points + Cash and All Points Award Reservation

April 13th, 2016

Generally, the choice between booking a Points + Cash or an All Points Award reservation is a no-brainer in favor of Points + Cash. The reasons for this are:

  1. Points + Cash stays count towards qualified nights and stays for tier renewal
  2. Points + Cash stays can generally be combined with a Diamond Suite Upgrade
  3. The “cash” portion of Points + Cash allows one to effectively buy points at a very attractive rate.

For the purposes of this exercise, we will assume that the benefit of a qualified stay is negligible.  If you’re cutting it that close on stays, then there are a lot better mattress stay options available than Andaz Tokyo.

Let us consider the Andaz Tokyo at this particular point in the space/time continuum that I am posting this (sadly, most of my previous articles are now woefully outdated…one of many reasons why actual posts here have become so infrequent)  First, the regular rates at this hotel have become so high that it is always a good value to use points towards a reservation. Unfortunately, Andaz Tokyo is one of the exempt hotels that do not allow the use of Diamond Suite Upgrades (a pity, because they are REALLY nice!)

And now, for some of you that have purchased points in the past, there is another way to buy points and a very attractive rate:

Darned right my loyalty deserves to be rewarded…

With this new promotion, let’s crunch the numbers and see what happens.

First, the Andaz Tokyo Points + Cash reservation.  As a Category 6 hotel, the cash portion of the Points + Cash rate at Andaz Tokyo should be $150;  HOWEVER, as the hotel charges in yen, Hyatt uses it’s own exchange rates to give us 17,785 yen:

Because $150 * 109 yen = 16...wait, what?

Because $150 * 109 yen = 16…wait, what?

BUT THAT’S NOT ALL!  Because Andaz Tokyo also charges the following on all paid rates (whether they’re supposed to or not):

There's even a tax on tax!

There’s even a tax on tax!

Putting my degree in nuclear engineering to good use, I calculate the total total of the cash portion of this stay to be…22554 yen.

Whereas, if you can participate in the 40% point bonus promotion, then you can purchase the additional 12,500 points needed for a full award stay (plus an extra 100) for $216.

You have more control of the exchange rate with this purchase.

You have more control of the exchange rate with this purchase.

Using a generous exchange rate of 109 yen gives us a total of 23544 yen.

So, even with all of the Andaz Tokyo tomfoolery and a 40% point bonus, it’s still a slightly better value to book a Points + Cash rate. However, given the scarcity of Points + Cash rates that are actually available at Andaz Tokyo these days, there’s no need to feel bad about topping off your points with this sale to book an all points stay and experience the fizzy jacuzzi at a discount.

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30% Holiday Promo sale at Tokyo Hyatt Hotels coming soon (again)?

November 14th, 2014

As followers of my Twitter feed, (the place where I first post my Tokyo Hyatt related breaking news) already know, for a couple of hours the Park Hyatt Tokyo was offering a “Holiday Promo” rate, offering 30% off of the Hyatt Daily Rate.  Not only was this a great discount, but it also offer seemed to offer special inventory that was not available with any other rate.

Unfortunately, I only got one screenshot from the Hyatt app on my smart phone (the rate also showed up on the regular Hyatt site), but it shows that, at 10:35am Friday Tokyo time, there was availability for a Park Deluxe Room on New Year’s Eve for under $500, the lowest rate that I have ever seen for that special date.

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For weekdays in January, I was seeing Park King rooms going for under $300…even cheaper than the $300 Points + Cash rate that would also set you back a whopping 15,000 Hyatt Gold Passport points!

I did not see the Holiday Promo rate anywhere on the Park Hyatt Tokyo website.  And soon after noon, the rate was completely gone.  However, I do not think that this rate was a mistake.  I do think that we will see this rate again very soon, perhaps for every other Tokyo Hyatt hotel as well.

This is very similar to a promotion that Hyatt ran last year at this time in the Asia-Pacific, with the terms slightly altered.  Going by memory, the Terms and Conditions stated that the reservation was non-refundable, with full prepayment required at the time of booking, must be booked at least three days in advance, and was good for stays between December 1, 2014 and January 31, 2015.  Hacking away at the source code, it seems that this year’s special offer code will be APRAC.

Although I personally am not interested in a non-refundable rate, I think that this would be a great opportunity for people to get to try the Park Hyatt Tokyo at close to Hyatt Regency Tokyo prices.  Or, for that matter, perhaps get to try the Hyatt Regency Tokyo at well below Hyatt Regency Tokyo prices.

Here’s hoping that the Holiday Promo makes a more long-lasting return in the very neat future!

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Discounted Hyatt Points Plus Points + Cash Rates Equals Potential Tokyo Hyatt Hotel Savings

November 11th, 2014

Through December 10th, 2014, Hyatt is offering a 30% bonus on the purchase of 5000 or more Hyatt Gold Passport points.

In most cases, purchasing points for all but a small top-off needed to acquire an award is a bad deal, for two reasons:

  1. It’s usually cheaper to just pay for the room than to buy enough points to pay for it.
  2. Award stays (using just points) do not count towards receiving points, or receiving stay credit for obtaining or maintaining higher status levels like Platinum or Diamond.

However, the current bonus does a lot to make purchasing points for a stay feasible, and the Points + Cash option at Hyatt hotels seals the deal.

Started just this year, Points + Cash rates allow you to use points to receive a deeply discounted room rate (the exact amount of points and cash required varies depending on the Award Category Level of the hotel).  Because it is a paid rate, you also receive points for the stay, and a stay credit.  And, like a regular rewards stay, it is a fully refundable rate.

The best part about Points + Cash rate is that it is a flat rate, regardless of time of year it is used.  So the more high demand/high cost time period it is, the more potential value you can receive from this offer.

Let’s look at how Points + Cash stacks up against the Tokyo Hyatt hotels.  I will choose a three night stay for two adults, during an arbitrary high demand period:  March 27-30, 2015.

First, the Hyatt Regency Tokyo.  This hotel is Award Category 3, so according to the Points + Cash chart, the rate requires $75 USD and 6,000 points per night.  For our three night stay, that is $225 and 18,000 points.

With the 30% discount, we can purchase 18,200 points for $336.  Adding to our $225 gives us a total of $561.  Dividing that by three nights gives us a Discount Purchased Points + Cash (I’ll call it “DPP+C”) rate of $187/night.

As of today, the lowest Hyatt Regency Tokyo refundable rate for those nights is $212.

Score one for PP+C!

Score one for PP+C!

DPP+C gives us a little over 10% savings…and shows that we shouldn’t even bother with this if we must purchase points at the regular price.

Next is the Andaz Tokyo.  This hotel is Award Category 6, doubling the nightly P+C cost to $150 USD and 12,000 points a night, or $450 + 36,000 points for all three nights.

With the 30% discount, we can purchase 36,400 points for $672.  Adding to our $450 gives us a total of $1122.  Dividing that by three nights gives us a DPP+C rate of $374/night.

This just barely beats out the best Andaz Tokyo refundable rate of $397, and if you’re willing to accept a prepaid, no-refundable rate, is worse than the Advance Purchase rate price of $338.

Given the time and effort required, we'll call it a push.

Given the time and effort required, we’ll call it a push.

Grand Hyatt Tokyo is also an Award Category 6 hotel, so the DPP+C rate is also $374/night.  Here we do much better than the Hyatt Daily Rate of $432…an over 15% savings!  It even beats out the inferior Advance Purchase rate.

DPP+C wins the rubber match.

DPP+C wins the rubber match in convincing fashion!

Sadly, I’m not even going to look up Park Hyatt Tokyo.  First of all, the P+C rate can only be used for base room, for which none are currently available for March 27th-30th.  Second, the Park Hyatt Tokyo is an Award Category 7 hotel, which requires 15,000 points and a whopping $300 USD/night.  Buying enough points to cover the 45,000 required for three nights will cost $840, which adds to $900 cash fee for a grand total of $1740, giving us a per night rate of $580.  And if you have to settle for $580/night for a base room at the Park Hyatt Tokyo, then you’re just not trying hard enough.

But, outside of the Park Hyatt Tokyo, I think that I have shown that purchasing discounted points for a Points + Cash rate at a Tokyo Hyatt hotel can be beneficial.  And, in the case of the Hyatt Regency Tokyo and the Grand Hyatt Tokyo, the DPP+C rate can be significantly beneficial.

Unfortunately, the Points + Cash rate cannot be booked online;  you must call Hyatt Gold Passport to book it.  And, unlike a straight points reservation, inventory may not be available for a Points + Cash reservation even if it is available for the Hyatt Daily Rate.  But, if you’re willing to put in a few minutes of time on the phone, the resulting savings may be well worth your effort.

Bonus Content: Like the Grand Hyatt Tokyo and Andaz Tokyo, the Hyatt Regency Hakone Resort & Spa is also an Award Category 6 hotel, so DDP+C rate remains $374/night.  And like the Grand Hyatt Tokyo, DDP+C would give you a savings of over %15 off the Hyatt Daily Rate.

Whether it's actually worth $374 a night is open to debate...

Whether the Hyatt Regency Hakone is actually worth $374 a night is open to debate…

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American Express Buy 3 Get 4 Rate

November 7th, 2014

American Express is running a promotion with Hyatt for a special rate that allows you to book a four night stay for the price of three from December 1st, 2014 through March 31st, 2015. A lot of times these “special rates” are actually marked up significantly from the regular rate, the end result being not much in the way of actual savings. But this rate appears to be tracking the Hyatt Daily Rate, which means that you actually can save up to 25% on your stay.

(EDIT: Unfortunately, the Park Hyatt Tokyo has opted out of this promotion.)

When searching for availability, be sure to use the “Special Offer Code” AX701, as in the following example for February dates at the Andaz Tokyo:

Click on the SPECIAL RATES to open the code entry window.

Click on the SPECIAL RATES link to open the code entry window.

If there is availability for all four nights, the “Amex Buy 3 Get 4″ rate will show up, with the Average Daily Rate being the value of the Hyatt Daily Rate (or Andaz Rate for Andaz hotels) with the last night’s rate fare waved.  In this example, it is three nights at 42000 yen and one night at zero yen, for an average rate of 31500 per night.

Up to 25% savings for stays of exactly four nights.

Up to 25% savings for stays of exactly four nights.

The only limitation of this rate is the requirement of an American Express credit card for payment.  Cancellation policy is the same as the Andaz Rate (or Hyatt Daily Rate at other hotels), for a rate much cheaper than the more restrictive Advance Purchase rate.

If staying eight nights, break your stay into two four nights stays for two free nights.

If staying eight nights, break your stay into two four nights stays for two free nights.

As always, it is best to book fully refundable fares and check periodically for better offers.  This is a good deal, but we should always be on the lookout for more!

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Lowest Price for Tokyo Hyatt Stays and Corresponding Point Redemption Values for the Next 12 Months

June 21st, 2014

If you have the flexibility to determine exactly when you can make your stay at a Tokyo Hyatt hotel, you may be interested in which specific time periods offer the best value for a stay.

I have gone through all of the rates at the Park Hyatt Tokyo, Andaz Tokyo Toranomon Hills, Grand Hyatt Tokyo, Hyatt Regency Tokyo, and the Hyatt Regency Hakone Resort & Spa to to determine the best value for hotel stays based on three criteria:

  1. Best regular rate
  2. Best regular rate w/free cancellation
  3. Best elite rate (including My Elite Rate for Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum and Diamond members)

Based on these values, I have also determined the base value of Hyatt Gold Passport at these hotels.  In other words, this is the minimum value that you will receive for redeeming your points at each particular hotel.

All results are based on the tax and fee inclusive rate for single night stays based on double occupancy and availability as of June 19th, 2014.  It is intended as a ballpark reference, and is not representative of realtime conditions.  To check on current availability and different variations of these searches, please utilize the Tokyo Hyatt Power Search and the Tokyo Hyatt Date Range Search tools.

The results by hotel are as follows:

Park Hyatt Tokyo

  1. Best Regular Rate: 47080 yen/night
    Dates Available: August 25th, September 1st-2nd, September 7th, January 18th, May 6th, May 7th
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.57 yen (30,000 points per night redemption)
  2. Best Regular Rate with Free Cancellation: 55318 yen/night
    Dates Available: August 25th, September 1st-2nd, September 7th, January 18th, May 6th, May 7th
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.84 yen (30,000 points per night redemption)
  3. Best Elite Rate: 44334 yen/night
    Dates Available: August 25th, September 1st-2nd, September 7th
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.48 yen (30,000 points per night redemption)

Andaz Tokyo Toranomon Hills

  1. Best Regular Rate: 47996 yen/night
    Dates Available: January 4th – 8th
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.92 yen (25,000 points per night redemption)
  2. Best Regular Rate with Free Cancellation: 47996 yen/night
    Dates Available: January 4th – 8th
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.92 yen (25,000 points per night redemption)
  3. Best Elite Rate: 47996 yen/night (Currently no My Elite Rate cheaper than the cheapest Best Regular Rate w/Free Cancellation)
    Dates Available: January 4th – 8th
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.92 yen (25,000 points per night redemption)

Grand Hyatt Tokyo

  1. Best Regular Rate: 47080 yen/night
    Dates Available: June 22nd-23rd
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.82 yen (25,000 points per night redemption)
  2. Best Regular Rate with Free Cancellation: 55318 yen/night
    Dates Available: June 22nd-23rd
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.82 yen (25,000 points per night redemption)
  3. Best Elite Rate: 44334 yen/night
    Dates Available: June 22nd-23rd
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.46 yen (25,000 points per night redemption)

Hyatt Regency Tokyo

  1. Best Regular Rate: 20121 yen/night
    Dates Available: December 22nd, December 25th-26th, January 4th-9th, May 1st-2nd, May 8th-9th, May 15th-16th, May 22nd-23rd, May 29th-30th, June 5th-6th, June 12th-13th
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.68 yen (12,000 points per night redemption)
  2. Best Regular Rate with Free Cancellation: 24160 yen/night
    Dates Available: December 22nd, December 25th-26th, January 4th-9th, May 1st-2nd, May 8th-9th, May 15th-16th, May 22nd-23rd, May 29th-30th, June 5th-6th, June 12th-13th
    Approximate Value Per Point: 2.01 yen (12,000 points per night redemption)
  3. Best Elite Rate: 16096 yen/night
    Dates Available: December 22nd, December 25th-26th
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.62 yen (12,000 points per night redemption)

Hyatt Regency Hakone Resort and Spa

  1. Best Regular Rate: 36900 yen/night
    Dates Available: Many Dates
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.48 yen (25,000 points per night redemption)
  2. Best Regular Rate with Free Cancellation: 36900 yen/night
    Dates Available: Many Dates
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.48 yen (25,000 points per night redemption)
  3. Best Elite Rate: 29580 yen/night
    Dates Available: Many Dates Throughout 2014
    Approximate Value Per Point: 1.18 yen (25,000 points per night redemption)

As expected, Hyatt Regency Tokyo provides the best value in terms of money and overall point redemption value, though a Platinum or Diamond will see better value this year using their points for a stay at Andaz Tokyo (especially when staying with three adults, as Andaz Tokyo is the only hotel to not charge an additional fee for a third adult on an award stay)

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